Satori jeg kan godt se din pointe, jeg mener bare ikke at den er rigtig
Jeg har selv haft fuldstændig virkelighedstro hallucinationer på både DMT, psilocybin og 4-HO-DIPT.
Snakkede med min mor som er uddannet psykolog og hun siger at en hallucination i nutidig dansk psykiatri deffineres ved en person som får falske sanseindtryk som fx. stemmer, objekter der bevæger sig, objekter som "morpher" sig til andre og selvfølgelig objekter og personer som ikke er virkelige.
Jeg mener bestemt at phenetylaminer og tryptaminer kan være hallucinogene nok specielt i høje doser.
Jeg har aldrig prøvet natskygger i doser høje nok til at fremkalde hallucinationer, så jeg kan ikke udtale mig om det punkt, men en hallu er vel så rigtig som man selv opfatter den?
Jeg har lige hevet dette ud, fra en psykiatri side (
http://www.mental-health-matters.com/ar ... ?artID=392)
Citat:
A hallucination is the brain's reception of a false sensory input. This essentially means that the person having a hallucination is experiencing an event through one of their senses that is not occurring in the real world. This can be through any of the senses, with tactile then auditory hallucinations being the most common. When auditory hallucinations are examined, the most common are hearing one's own thoughts as if they were being spoken aloud, followed by hearing one's name being called by a voice when alone.
People may experience hallucinations as part of their normal developmental stages, especially during the preschool years, in the 2-5 year old range. Common causes of hallucinations in people without a psychiatric diagnosis are exhaustion, sleep deprivation, social isolation and rejection, severe reactive depression, amputation of a limb (phantom limb syndrome), a reaction to medication, a reaction to hallucinogens such as LSD, a reaction to other drugs such as heroin and cocaine.
Physical (organic) causes of hallucinations include delirium, tumors leading to increased intercranial pressure, temporal lobe lesions, seizures, head injuries, and irritation of sensory pathways.
In persons with a psychiatric diagnosis, it is the psychotic disorders that are generally associated with hallucinations. These include all of the schizophrenic diagnoses, and affective disorders (such as bipolar disorder with psychotic features).
Jeg mener at dette stemmer overens med min påstand om, at både tryptaminer og phenetylaminer kan være hallucination's fremkaldene.
DMT bliver da også beskrevet som et hallucinogent stof i "a spirit molecule", hvilket forøvrigt er en enormt god bog, som jeg kan foreslå alle at læse!!!
Rodet, men jeg håber du forstår

David
