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Hej allesammen..

Jeg har nu kigget meget rundt omkring og folk har godt nok mange forskellige meninger om hvor dosen skal ligge. Man anbefaler 110 mg (eller der omkring) første gang, men så slog det mig da jeg læste dette:

Well you know what swim is going to say. Body weight should not be the only deciding factor. Level of experience should be given *equal* if not greater priority. I think it was very wise of Erowid to take the time to differentiate between a newbie and a veteran. There's a reason for it. And here is that reason once again:

Given the fact that 1 tablet equals 60-90mg of MDMA and 1 tablet is sufficient for the vast majority of new users, this proves that the body weight method is erroneous for people who are not veterans. While a 180lb veteran may require 125mg + 40mg booster just to "feel the magic", this is not at all the case for a new user. Swim still benefits from a half tablet, and rarely needs more than 1 full tablet. In fact, if a user is responsible in their usage, that user could remain a "newbie" forever, never graduating to higher doses and always being impressed by 1 tablet (60-90mg).

Swim has conclusively proven time and time again that new users overshoot the sweet spot at 125mg. Without exception. The same individuals go crazy with euphoria on a single tablet (60-90mg). I think that settles the matter in swims mind.

There is also a health issue on the table. Neurotoxicity is sigifnicantly reduced (as are health issues and ER visits) if the dose is kept low. Less is more with MDMA. I think its irresponsible to recommend a brand new user down 125+40mg on his or her first try. That is telling a new user to down 2-3 tablets for their first experience. Way too much. Swims first experience was on only a half tablet and he felt incredible. Half tablet equals 30mg. Swim weighs 185. Not surprisingly Erwoid comes in with the accurate information on that as well - stating that 30mg is the minimum thresshold for an experience with MDMA.

So there's more to consider here than body weight. Great collection of data however, and very helpful, however if it were my post, which its not, I would give significant relevance to the "newbie versus veteran" scale.

I kan læse hele tården her : http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55242

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Indlæg: 13 feb 2014 19:14 
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Hej allesammen..

Jeg har nu kigget meget rundt omkring og folk har godt nok mange forskellige meninger om hvor dosen skal ligge. Man anbefaler 110 mg (eller der omkring) første gang, men så slog det mig da jeg læste dette:

Well you know what swim is going to say. Body weight should not be the only deciding factor. Level of experience should be given *equal* if not greater priority. I think it was very wise of Erowid to take the time to differentiate between a newbie and a veteran. There's a reason for it. And here is that reason once again:

Given the fact that 1 tablet equals 60-90mg of MDMA and 1 tablet is sufficient for the vast majority of new users, this proves that the body weight method is erroneous for people who are not veterans. While a 180lb veteran may require 125mg + 40mg booster just to "feel the magic", this is not at all the case for a new user. Swim still benefits from a half tablet, and rarely needs more than 1 full tablet. In fact, if a user is responsible in their usage, that user could remain a "newbie" forever, never graduating to higher doses and always being impressed by 1 tablet (60-90mg).

Swim has conclusively proven time and time again that new users overshoot the sweet spot at 125mg. Without exception. The same individuals go crazy with euphoria on a single tablet (60-90mg). I think that settles the matter in swims mind.

There is also a health issue on the table. Neurotoxicity is sigifnicantly reduced (as are health issues and ER visits) if the dose is kept low. Less is more with MDMA. I think its irresponsible to recommend a brand new user down 125+40mg on his or her first try. That is telling a new user to down 2-3 tablets for their first experience. Way too much. Swims first experience was on only a half tablet and he felt incredible. Half tablet equals 30mg. Swim weighs 185. Not surprisingly Erwoid comes in with the accurate information on that as well - stating that 30mg is the minimum thresshold for an experience with MDMA.

So there's more to consider here than body weight. Great collection of data however, and very helpful, however if it were my post, which its not, I would give significant relevance to the "newbie versus veteran" scale.

I kan læse hele tården her : http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55242

Håber i gider svare.. Tak


PS Jeg vejer 61 kg


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MDMA er meget mildt, så medmindre du er meget sensitiv, så synes jeg 110 lyder meget godt. Jeg tog 120 mg. første gang. Det var helt fint. Der var smæk på, ja, men på den gode måde

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Indlæg: 13 feb 2014 19:43 
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hellere tage for lidt end for meget! im serial!!
-it easier to redose, than empty the nose.. eller noget :-)
hva tabs taler duden om? er 60 mg mdma ikk lavt sat som std E-pille? han har dog fat i noget ang. hans observeringer!
jeg tog E back in the days(90erne) og tar krystaller 1-2 gange årligt og kommer aldrig 0.100gram
mit sweetspot ligger på ca 70-80mg, altover 0.1g og jeg tygger kinder,uønskede muskelspœnding og ruller øjne.. det ska dog siges at jeg er sensitiv. men ja start roligt; det er ikk sjovt at vœre "immun" overfor magien senere hen..
happy trippin dude :-)

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Indlæg: 13 feb 2014 20:58 
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Selvfølgelig er der delte meninger om dosen første gang. Alle er jo forskellige. Jeg vil også sige at 110mg er et godt udgangspunkt at have, første gang man skal prøve MDMA.
Held og lykke og kom gerne med en tilbagemelding når du har fået det prøvet :)

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