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Forfatter: | Puny_pete [ 19 mar 2012 22:34 ] |
Titel: | Methylone, og så MXE bagefter? |
Jeg har læst mig til at MXE og methylone ikke er en god kombo set i HR-sammenhængen. Ville det være dårlig HR at tage EN dose methylone med en god ven tidligt på aftenen, hvorefter så supplerer med SMÅ bumps(10mg) MXE 4 timer efter? Er det dårlig HR eller er det okay set i HR sammenhæng? Kilder: Citat: I would be very cautious with this combo, personally. This is not the same as methylone + ketamine; methoxetamine is a DARI and a D2 partial agonist, among a slew of other things (it most likely has a broad binding profile: NMDA antagonist, (partial?) mu agonist, sigma agonist, K+ channel blocker, NACh antagonist, etc etc and who knows what, what I'm saying is that its not so easy to predict the safety of combinations with MXE). My instinct seems to tell me that methoxetamine's dopaminergic pharmacology might be more similar to PCP than to ketamine. I obviously don't have any data to back that up, as MXE is unstudied, but its just a feeling I have. Anyways, given how cracked-out and dopamine fueled methylone can be-- especially after redosing-- I would honestly be pretty hesitant to combine it with MXE. Citat: So methylone causes release of dopamine into the synaptic cleft and methoxetamine prevents reuptake of this dopamine back into the presynaptic nerve terminal. I can think of two things that happen: - one is that you might 'spend' less dopamine, in this situation a little goes a longer way right? - another is that it could much more easily be too much, it is more unpredictable and potentially more toxic, overstimulation side-effects as well as cardiovascular problems may occur. I would personally say the second is not worth the first and I'd avoid it. Methoxetamine seems bad combined with any dopaminergic compound. edit: apparently serotonergic ones are also not a smart idea though I have read about lots of people who liked it. Doesn't make it safe though! Her snakker de om at tage det samtidig, jeg tænkte på at gøre det når methylone rusen var stillet af. |
Forfatter: | Samuel Caldwell [ 19 mar 2012 23:02 ] |
Titel: | Re: Methylone, og så MXE bagefter? |
lyder som en ret dårlig idé ud fra dine kilder |
Forfatter: | Mystery [ 25 mar 2012 20:08 ] |
Titel: | Re: Methylone, og så MXE bagefter? |
Det er en rigtig dårlig idé. Har helt klart også en teori om, at MXE har en kompleks og lang række effekter udover NMDA-antagonisme og dopamin genoptagelsesinhibering. De værste (!) kombinationer jeg har haft uheld (!) med har været med MXE. Efterfølgende havde jeg ekstremt nedsatte kognivtive egenskaber (motorik, lyrisk afasi - kunne ikke tale de første 20 timer efter sidste gang, hvilket fik mig til at droppe MXE helt) dagene efter. |
Forfatter: | Puny_pete [ 25 mar 2012 20:11 ] |
Titel: | Re: Methylone, og så MXE bagefter? |
Jeg valgte også at lade være. ![]() |
Forfatter: | wEstzIde [ 29 mar 2012 23:52 ] |
Titel: | Re: Methylone, og så MXE bagefter? |
Slap af MXE lyder som et drug der kan give nogen crazy bivirkninger. RC junglen er risky business.. |
Forfatter: | Puny_pete [ 30 mar 2012 00:23 ] |
Titel: | Re: Methylone, og så MXE bagefter? |
Resist » 30 mar 2012 00:52 skrev: Slap af MXE lyder som et drug der kan give nogen crazy bivirkninger. RC junglen er risky business.. MXE voldtager dig i røven uden glidecreme hvis du ikke passer på. |
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