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Better late than newer

As some one you might have read i had some difrent troubles getting seeds on top of the fact that im VERY late this year ( my last outdoor grow was some 15 years ago..).

After having troubles getting the seeds i ordered in the first place some helpfull DCF users offered to donate me some seeds.

A few days back i recieved some seeds from Ramone79 from DCF who sent me a batch of his Ramone79 outdoor skunk mix.
Some of them were unfortunatly smashed in the mail, but most of them survived and was put in wet toilet papir and covered with a news paper and put in a warm dark spot to germinate.

Was going to germinate for 48 hours and then plant them in soil but some stress and other things made me forget them and so they were germinating longer than planned and when i checked them today most of them were about 10 cm long and had pushed the upper wet towel upwards.

Time to plant them in soil immidiatly!



15 a little yellow but othervise healthy looking plants or now under flouresents a few days before going into outdoor soil.





Im awaiting yet another donor seed batch from a user that wants to remain anomous, and some Royal Dane seeds ordered online.
And a few seeds from unknown strain that was in some pot a friend gave me.

These are going to be my late outdoor grow for this year and im hoping for a fungiving harvest eventhough its a bit late and some things complicated it further.
No matter what ill update regullarly with pix and descriptions for all of them and also for each strain and offcourse af smoke report later this year.

The plants taking from sprouting and into soil or now looking healthy green and opened up fully starting to grow its first leaves.



Today was a lovely day when opening my mailbox at home.
Finally the Royal Danes had arrived and also the second seed batch from a kind
and helpful DCF user ( first one appears to have disapeared in the mail).

Now i added 5 new strains to my grow besides the Ramone79 skunkmix.

TAS/GG3 x DP

ERD/AR x DP

HK x Leb27

Royal Dane

X - Unknown seeds from some pot a friend gave me.

*TAS = Tripple Afghan Slam
GG3 = Guerilla Gold 3
DP = Danish Passion
ERD = Erdpurt
AR = Alpine Rocket(swiss classic)
HK = Hindu Kush
Leb27 = Lebanon 27, a strain from Lebanon grown in Denmark for many years.

All the strains except X ,which i know nothing about, is suppose to be early flowering so they should provide a decent outcome eventhough im a little late for a danish outdoor grow.
They have all been put directly into soil mix in a mini greenhouse



Today i started germinating 60 new seeds in 5 difrent strains so soon ill hopefully be putting 75 plants in 6 difrent starins into outdoor soil if they all succeed.

Harvest time already seem so looong away...

Bedre sent end aldrig, hehe Det ser godt ud og du skal da nok få en ordentlig høst ud af 75 planter, wow.

Ville så kræve at samtlige af de nyligt plantede frø kom op, men tror dog nok alligevel at der vil blive til en lille pind eller 2 til efteråret

Today i saw the first signs of the latest 60 seeds beginning to surface, but as my current camera isnt good for closeups or macro ill wait with pix until they have grown free from the surface.

Additions to previous grow update:

TAS, Tripple Afghan Slam is by Reeferman
ErdPurt is the cross between Erdbeer and x Purpurea Ticinensis. ( as far as i know they are both some very popular Swiss strains adopted to the northern climate. Potent and very mold and fungus resistance)



My older plants ( http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=59696) which i thought had yellowing leaves and slow growth wasnt suffering from too much fertilizer or over watering but from a serious Nitrogen deficiency according to knowledge i gained on these sites
http://forum.everyonedoesit.co.uk/showt ... hp?t=59335
http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/plan ... _guide.php
Very highly recommended reading for any cannabis grower.

I had ordered both Canna Grow and Bloom but from a danish webshop with slow deliveringtime so in the meantime i was using some cheap liquid nutrient with too less N and was using it too carefully as the brand was unknown to other cannabis users and so also the effects regarding a possibel nutrient burn.

Its called Grøn Vækst - Organisk Plantegødning, bought in a shop chain here called Silvan for 25 DKR for half a liter ( thats about 4 $ )
N = 4,1%
P = 0,5%
K = 5,2%
So an NPK apr. 8:1:10 which is NOT suited for cannabis Vegetative growth as a stand alone furtilizer but could be used if suplement with added Nitrogen.
Check these very good pages on Cannabis nutrients and problems deraving from too much or too little etc


Still not having recieved the ordered Canna furtilizers and with plants in desperate need for Nitrogen i decided to make my own emergency nutrient mix using the cheap liquid nutrient and adding alot of the lacking N.

My emergency recipy:

First i took one hand showel of rabbit dirt containing lotsa N but also being one of the few animal furtilizers that is best for plants without buring roots.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php? ... ge=1&pp=15






and added 4 liters of boiling water in total to kill bugs, fly eggs etc in it.



After having stirred it and killed any remaning larves and other bugs i added 6 liters of cold water and added 7 teaspoons of the other furtilizer to add the proper P, K, Mg and other nutrints.
7 teaspoons of marble siryp/molasses as its told to stimulate micro biologic processes and micro nutrients in the soil.



I decided to repot into larger containers before adding the "emergency nutrient mix"
From 1 liters to 4 liter pots always using Leca peas in the button for draining and air to the roots.
I used a coffefilter to keep the peas in and allow the excess water to drain.



Then i added my own special soil mix to the new pots.
Flower soil, peat moss, plant bag soil, sand and leca pea's.




In front is seen the 2x30 seedlings which almost all have sprouted except the X seeds which i wasnt expecting anyway as they were all imature, small and pale looking seeds.



behind is seen the Ramone79 skunk mix 15 plants wich are a few days older.
The the left in the background you can just glimpse the older plants which are 3 Misty and 2 Super Skunk from Nirvana ( they were the reason i made the "emergency nutrient mix" - see the yellow buttom leafes and slow groth cause of what turned out to be lack of N).
The older plants are kept seperatly cause they are going to be selected for motherplants for an indoor grow i planned later this year so they are still in pots and will be moved back indoors when the sunlight is aproching flowering cyclus.








A small update.
the pix was taken yesterday, June 19.

Right after repotting the older plants were hanging a little from the root getting use to the new pots and improved soil.
But today i could already tell the difrence and effect from the nutrients.
They leaves starting to look more healthy and more agile in correcting towards the sun.
The next days i expect the yellowing leaves to start getting greener again and the plants to take off in growth

Hey GG

Very nice, looking forward to see TAS in action, growing a small amount of the cross myself, your list look similar to mine

Very interresting to see the difference at harvest, but a lethal dose round-up killed the first setup (guerilla)

Held og lykke (edit: du taler åbenbart også dansk, hehe)

Takker.

Ja taler da bestemt også mit modersmål, men posten blir opdateret på en hel del forums, og da hovedparten af dem er udenlandske og engelsksprogede ville det være et kæmpe arbejde at skulle oversætte hver enkelt update til dansk også, så statser på at mine landsmænd også kan lidt engelsk

Der skal jo også være tid til at fixe det vigtigeste, nemlig de små dejlige grønne i haven istedet for at sidde foran pc hele tiden..

Growet er lidt sent ude, men vil få massere af opmærksomhed, sollys og gødning, så skulle give en anstændig høst alligevel da det jo bare er vegge fasen der blir kortere, mens blomstringsfasen blir det samme.
Og da de fleste af sorterne er tidligt blomstrende er jeg optimistisk mht høst selvom de er lidt sent ude...

Jeg er også ret spændt på og optimistisk mht mit specielle gødnings mix ( Silvan organisk flydende + kaninlort - se ovenfor)
Når mit bestilte Canna langt om længe ankommer vil jeg så revurdere indholdet af kaninlort i forhold til både Canna vegge og blomst.
Nok stadigt tilsætte pæne mængder kaninlort sammen med Canna i vegge perioden og lidt mindre kaninlort sammen med Canna blomst.
Skal have nærstuderet indholdet til den tid og ikke mindst dets virkning på planterne.

Du lyder godtnok som om du har været uheldig med det canna. Jeg fik mit 2 dage efter jeg havde bestilt, og det var fra en dansk butik, så handler vel om at vælge den rigtige shop.

Er ikke sikker på om man må nævne forhandlere (?), så det lader jeg være med, men ville bare sige at det altså ikke er alle de danske web-shops der er langsomme til at levere det.

Jeg har nok været ekstremt uheldig da jeg har handlet 3 gange i DK, 3 forskellige frøbanker og webshops.

Nævner ikke navne heller, men den ene gang modtog jeg slet ikke de bestilte ting, den anden gang gik der 2 uger og den 3. gang venster jeg stadigt efter mine ting herunder meget tiltrængt Canna gødning, nu her 2 uger efter.

De gange jeg har bestilt fra enten Holland eller tyskland, har jeg haft mine ting 3-5 herdage efter.

Den første "kikser" er dog skyld i at jeg har modtage en masse gode kontakter, frø og hjælp osv, så de er helt afskrevet da der vist også var en masse uheldige ting involveret, men da jeg har haft uheldige "oplevelser" 3/3 gange ved handel i DK, så vil jeg i fremtiden rette blikket mod udlandet hvor jeg tilgengæld kun har gode erfaringer.

Sad og kiggede på dine billeder og blev ret nysgerrig; hvorfor i alverden er der plastikskeer i nogle af potterne?

Hvis du kikker efter står der strain navne på skeerne, det er for at holde styr på hvad der er hvad.

Held og lykke med growet!

DOH. Ja det kan jeg godt se nu, kiggede vist på de billeder der er lidt mere zoomet ud. Tak for oplysningen.

The latest batch of seedlings are still kept under flourecents as im wating for the rainy weather to pass.
some of them are a bit stretchy cause i also had the older plants under same light, thus meaning the distance from the bulb to the seedlings were to great.
The older plants has therefore been moved outside in a DIY greenhouse until the rainy weather passes.
Now the the seedlings are a little more than 1 inch below the bulbs which they seem to like a lot better.






The older plants outside is still being fed the "emergency nutrient mix" which they seem to like ( commercial liquid nutrient added rabbit manure and a little molasses to stimulate micro nutrients in the soil)

Still none of the X seeds have sprouted which actually isnt a disapointment as they were just some immature looking seeds i found in some pot from a friend.

The other strains ( TAS/GG3 x DP, ERD/AR x DP, HK x Leb27, Royal Dane ) are surprisingly well germinating.
from 52 seeds in soil, 51 have germinated sofar.

Fedt det går fremad for dig Og ja, lad os håbe på noget mere sol snart. De ser godtnok noget ranglede og tynde ud på det sidste par billeder..

Haha tænnkte nok jeg havde set det navn før da jeg så det på icmags..

Det ser got ud gunnar, du virker som en mand der har styr på hvad han laver..

Jeg følger med, og lærer sikkert også lidt på vejen

(Kanon med velopdaterede grow logs)

recent update.

Unfortunatly my mobile with camera decided to go blank.
Im not sure when i can afford either a new phone and/or camera.
Thats why updates has lacked recently.

All the TAS/GG3 x DP, ERD/AR x DP, HK x Leb27, Royal Dane seeds have sprouted.

I planted 5 of the Ramone79 skunkmix into my own garden and my neighboor has the last 10 in his garden ( we share a smoke together in the evenings sometimes anyway).
1 of them being weak and small was eaten by slugs.

2 of the bigger ones from the other strains has had their tops eating by slugs also but i hope they recover this very early unplanned "topping".

TAS/GG3 x DP are still indoor under flouresent but going outdoor very soon ( testing atm if flouresents is better than outdoor cause of the rain and lack of sun - size is almost the same but outdoors are doing a little better).
Some of the lower leafes are starting a little yellowing because of lacking Nitrogen and im afraid to use much furtilizer because of the small pot size so they are going outside very soon.

None of them is killer growing atm because of the shitty weather here but the HK x Leb27 is the fastest growing followed very closely by the Royal Danes, but the diffrence in sizes for the strains is kinda minimal in this stage.

The Misty and Super Skunk are still outside in pots.
They just outgrow 50 cm in 4 liters pots and roots are showing at the buttom so they are very soon transplanted into 12 liter pots.
They are ment for a later indoor grow as motherplants.

Ive just recently ordered some new seeds ( 1 x AK-48, 1 x Jock Horror, 1 x NL - Big Bud, 1 x Arjan's Haze #1 ) im still waiting for the seeds and they are also ment for the later indoor grow.
Im gonna grow seeds from them and also use them for some later planned crosses.
The Arjan's Haze #1 costed a freaking 105 Euro so i hope its so damn good as he claims!

Next on my wishlist for seed breading and eksperimenting is the famous ( but impossibel to get) Deep Chunk and some exotic strains as the C99 and others sativas like mexicans etc, maybe some Guerilla Gold etc., but i need to get my seperate growroom finished before i can handle all the seperate strains.

Thats all for now but i hope i can be able to post some pictures soon.
anyways ill update with text info in the meantime..

Stay tuned...

Sorry for the late update.
Been busy and had a phone/camera crash also

Some shots of the outdoorgrow.
I didnt save the exact date but the pix are estimated 2 weeks old i guess
The plants where taken from the small pots in the minigrowhouse and put in soil about a month ago exept the TAS/GG3XDP which where put out a little more than a week later.

They have been wellfed with nutrients
At first my "emergency nutrientmix" later they have recieved mostly Canna Vega and rabbit manure



also one of the earlier pix


An earlier pix showing a Royal Dane and an ErdPurt/ARxDP haven been attacked by slugs and one could say that they had a very early unplanned topping.


Yet another early pix showing a HKxLeb27


An early pix showing a Royal Dane



Most recent shots
These where taken today
first one is showing a TAS/GG3xDP male.
This cross is the only one as of yet showing sex, and only the males ( 3 out of 5 sofar)
The rest of the germinated plants from that cross is at a friends place ( pix from there comming later)

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 plants from the Ramone skunkmix
These are 53 centimeters atm

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 Royal Danes.
The tallest is also around 53 cm atm.
Not bad considering they have been outside less than a month and where only around 10 centimeters when they got into the soil.

Shot at 2007-07-23

The 2 plants which had a very early "topping" by slugs, have survived and is doing fine although very short

Shot at 2007-07-23

ErdPurt/ARxDP apr 45 cm

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 infront to the right is Ramone skunkmix ( doing alot better in my garden than in my neighborg's unfurtilized one- pix from his garden later)

Shot at 2007-07-23

The biggest TAS/GG3xDP male

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 HKxLeb27 plants
At first this cross was the fastest growing and tallest but they have been surpassed minimal by Ramone skunkmix and RD but they are still the most wide and branchy ones.
Im looking very much forward to smoking these
mixing a heavy indica with an early Danish sativa dominated landrace is surely something exciting and ive heard others speak highly of this weed.
One in front is somewhat pale green
i think its some kinda nutrient/mineral OD or insufficiency but ive not been able to tell the exact reason and its the only one outside showing this?
Ideas on the cause of this is welcome

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 more HKxLeb27

Shot at 2007-07-23

ErdPurt/ARxDP

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Royal Danes again

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2 more RD's

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The growspot as a whole

Shot at 2007-07-23

Ramone skunkmix in my neighbors garden.
They are smaller, stretchy and not even started sidebranching yet.
They got out a week later, recieve a little less direct sunlight, but im sure the main reason for being smaller is that he doesnt feed them nutrients.
He dislikes me keeping rabbits and therefore said no to offered rabbit manure and the result is obvious...
FEED YOUR PLANTS PROPERLY OR THEY WILL END UP STARVING YOU AT HARVEST!

Sorry for the late update.
Been busy and had a phone/camera crash also

Some shots of the outdoorgrow.
I didnt save the exact date but the pix are estimated 2 weeks old i guess
The plants where taken from the small pots in the minigrowhouse and put in soil about a month ago exept the TAS/GG3XDP which where put out a little more than a week later.

They have been wellfed with nutrients
At first my "emergency nutrientmix" later they have recieved mostly Canna Vega and rabbit manure



also one of the earlier pix


An earlier pix showing a Royal Dane and an ErdPurt/ARxDP haven been attacked by slugs and one could say that they had a very early unplanned topping.


Yet another early pix showing a HKxLeb27


An early pix showing a Royal Dane



Most recent shots
These where taken today
first one is showing a TAS/GG3xDP male.
This cross is the only one as of yet showing sex, and only the males ( 3 out of 5 sofar)
The rest of the germinated plants from that cross is at a friends place ( pix from there comming later)

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 plants from the Ramone skunkmix
These are 53 centimeters atm

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 Royal Danes.
The tallest is also around 53 cm atm.
Not bad considering they have been outside less than a month and where only around 10 centimeters when they got into the soil.

Shot at 2007-07-23

The 2 plants which had a very early "topping" by slugs, have survived and is doing fine although very short

Shot at 2007-07-23

ErdPurt/ARxDP apr 45 cm

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 infront to the right is Ramone skunkmix ( doing alot better in my garden than in my neighborg's unfurtilized one- pix from his garden later)

Shot at 2007-07-23

The biggest TAS/GG3xDP male

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 HKxLeb27 plants
At first this cross was the fastest growing and tallest but they have been surpassed minimal by Ramone skunkmix and RD but they are still the most wide and branchy ones.
Im looking very much forward to smoking these
mixing a heavy indica with an early Danish sativa dominated landrace is surely something exciting and ive heard others speak highly of this weed.
One in front is somewhat pale green
i think its some kinda nutrient/mineral OD or insufficiency but ive not been able to tell the exact reason and its the only one outside showing this?
Ideas on the cause of this is welcome

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 more HKxLeb27

Shot at 2007-07-23

ErdPurt/ARxDP

Shot at 2007-07-23

Royal Danes again

Shot at 2007-07-23

2 more RD's

Shot at 2007-07-23

The growspot as a whole

Shot at 2007-07-23

Ramone skunkmix in my neighbors garden.

Shot at 2007-07-23

They are smaller, stretchy and not even started sidebranching yet.
They got out a week later, recieve a little less direct sunlight, but im sure the main reason for being smaller is that he doesnt feed them nutrients.
He dislikes me keeping rabbits and therefore said no to offered rabbit manure and the result is obvious...
FEED YOUR PLANTS PROPERLY OR THEY WILL END UP STARVING YOU AT HARVEST!

Pride of my life, is spreading joy.
today i started using both Canna Vega, Canna Flores and rabbit manure as many of the plants are starting to go into flower fase.
In just 3 days the tallest of the plants raised from 53 centimeters to 68 centimeters



Proudly looking out over the garden from the last row by the fence
Royal Danes.
Tallest ones are 63 centimeters now

Shot with Photosmart M425 at 2007-07-26

Another one of the royal prides of Danish gardens are watching over the other plants from last row by the fence.

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Tallest and biggest in the garden sofar.
Ramone skunkmix with its nice fat indica leaves and bushy appearance.
Tallest one are 68 centimeters, 5 centimeters a day from last pictures.
If you look carefully you can se that the leaves are curling just a bit ( in honour of the camera ive straightened some of them out a little).
No yellowing or burned spots but ive been pushing the nutrient limit with these babes.
but no pain, no gain.
I hope the Trich production can measure up with the growth then im in for a hell of a smoke at harvest.
I gave my neighbor some plants of the same strain and they are looking like sorry excuses for cannabis in his unfurtilized garden.


Shot with Photosmart M425 at 2007-07-26

HKxLeb27
Very similar to the Ramone skunkmix.
Very bushy with indica leaves and good groth rate.
Not as tall now as the Ramone's but also very bushy and wide
Its hidding its sativa ancestor well

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TAS/GGxDP male
The only ones still showing sex ( not very tall or big )
picture is a little blurry so the balls are not showing very clearly.
im still in doubt wether to make seeds seperatly for each cross or to let the earliest cross pollinate them all for even earlier strain next year.
Since no pistils are showing yet i still have time to decide but im sure i dont have many days as all the strains are suppose to be early.

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ErdPurt/AxDP
Clearly indica dominated but more neutral looking than the Ramone's and HKxLeb27
More looking like the Royal Danes but not as tall and a little more bushy.
As ive heard so much about the ErdPurt crosses i also look forward to how it smokes.
I have other ErdPurt crosses but recieved them to late for soil so i have to wait for those till next season.

Shot with Photosmart M425 at 2007-07-26

Front row by the bucket you see the Ramone skunkmix.
They have been a pleasent surprice sofar.
Big fat plants with huuge indica leaves.
Cant wait till i see how they smoke

Shot with Photosmart M425 at 2007-07-26

Almost 60 centimeters in about 30 days outside and about 5 centimeters a day for the past 3 days in mostly clouded weather.
Im sure the Canna nutrients and rabbit manure had something to say and of course some good genetics passed on to me by skilled growers.

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