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Det gør jeg oxo på et tispunkt


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Indlæg: 08 jul 2001 00:26 
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Jeg synes at det lyder til at være lækkert at ryge passionsblomst, det tror jeg jeg vil købe hos azarius. Men prøv lige at læs dette:
"I recommend some caution with any Passiflora species because of the
cyanide content. In the plant, this isn't present as free cyanide --
it's in one or more compounds called cyanogenic glycosides. If you
crush a leaf, enzymes present in the leaf will break down the cyanogenic
glycosides to release free hydrogen cyanide (you know, the stuff they
use in the gas chamber).

The question with this recipe is: how much cyanide would you get? This
depends on --

(1) How much of the cyanogenic glycoside is present in this species? I
know there's some -- I tested it myself, some years back -- but I don't
have good quantitative data, and the amount is likely to vary depending
on what part of the plant you test, what conditions it was grown under,
etc. My gut feeling is that 1 pound of Passiflora incarnata per person
would be a big risk IF you actually ingested all the cyanide it could
generate. Which brings us to...

(2) How much of the cyanogenic glycoside is broken down into cyanide
during the processing? This depends on lots of things, like whether you
crush the leaves before boiling.

(3) How much hydrogen cyanide remains in the brew after boiling it down?
If the pH is acid enough, it might all get boiled off. Maybe. (But
leave a window open!)

(4) If any of the original cyanogenic glycoside remains in the final
product, can it be broken down by enzymes in the body or by bacteria in
the gut?

I'm not sure what to suggest; answering all of the above questions would
be a substantial project. Perhaps the recipe could be modified to
ensure that 100% of the hydrogen cyanide (and the cyanogenic glycoside)
is destroyed or driven off during processing. But I don't know of a
do-it-in-your-kitchen quantitative cyanide assay one could use to test
the outcome.

By the way, all of the above also applies to large doses of Damiana
(alias Turnera aphrodisiaca, if I remember right)."


Hvad siger i til det, er det bare en spasser der ikke ved hvad han snakker om eller er passionblomst noget farligt noget???


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Indlæg: 08 jul 2001 00:34 
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ved ikke om det passer

men hvorfor dyrker du ikke dine egne planter.. sku noget billigere *S*


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